Why Blacks Should Vote Republican
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Black Republican History and Analysis
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In 1999 I met a very successful small businesswoman. She ran a company that produced high end gift items for ladies. These items sold in stores such as Neiman Marcus and Saks Fifth Avenue. I became her package designer. Over the years we became good friends and when she sold her business we decided to work together on a new business. She would put up the money; I would put up the time. I wish I could say, “And we lived happily ever after” but this is where life takes its twists and turns. Recently, we were talking on the phone and discussing our situations. She has moved from her five bedroom, three bath home with servant’s quarters to a three bedroom apartment, which is now too expensive. I was talking about how hard it is just to hold things together.
I recalled the good old days in 2007 when she (the Democrat) and I (the Republican) were discussing both party’s Presidential Primaries. I told her that the Democrats would do best to nominate Hillary Clinton; at least with Hillary they knew what they were getting. She thought America needed someone fresh- someone new. “After all”, she said, “you are a black male and should support Barack Obama for the Democratic nominee. It’s an historical event having a black man nominated for one of the two major parties.” I pointed out that by using this logic she, being a white female, should support Hillary Clinton. If Hillary Clinton were to be nominated it would also, of course, be historical but my friend had become an Obama supporter.
Finally, the time for the general election came. Once again we were working and found ourselves talking politics. She said, “Surely, you’re not going to vote for McCain.” And I replied, “Surely I am, because I’m voting for ideas, not the man.” I went on, “I think Obama’s ideas are dangerous for America. We don’t need to be ‘fundamentally changed,’ we just need to work on some of the problems.”
Today the elections are upon us again. I would like to pose some pertinent questions. First, will blacks still support the Democrats and President Obama? And second, have blacks figured out that it’s not the man but the ideas that matter? The following are some of the ideas that make blacks as conservative as Republicans on social issues. In December 2008 the Gallup Poll pointed out that blacks are conservative on most moral issues, almost as conservative as Republicans.
1. 31% of blacks said that homosexuality is morally acceptable while 30% of Republicans said the same. 61% of non-black Democrats agreed that homosexuality is morally acceptable.
2. 46% of both blacks and Republicans believe that sex between an unmarried male and female is morally acceptable as opposed to 68% of non-black Democrats.
3. 37% of blacks said that abortion is morally acceptable and 25% of Republicans agreed with them. 54% of non-black Democrats agreed that abortion is morally acceptable.
4. 30% of blacks agreed that same sex marriages should be recognized by law as valid, 22% of Republicans concurred. 57% of non-black Democrats also agreed.
Overall, blacks are more closely aligned with Republicans morally verses their non-black Democratic counterparts. Furthermore, blacks are more religious and go to church more often than either Republicans or non-black Democrats. In church attendance 76% of blacks attend weekly services and 67% of Republicans attend weekly.
These are just some of the similarities found in this Gallup poll. It is amazing that blacks fail to realize that the Republican Party is their friend and not their sworn enemy on moral issues. Therefore, I‘ll ask another question. Is it more about money than about moral issues? If so, then the moral issues really don’t matter. It has been rightfully said that the love of money is the root of all evil. If a person votes for money issues before moral issues then he shows his true character. When I query my fellow black Americans they generally have no real answer to why they continue to vote for the Democratic Party. The only thing they generally point to is that the Democrats help the lower wage workers. When I remind them that there are more super rich Democrats than Republicans, their tempers flair and our discussion abruptly ends. This leads me to assume that for them, money issues trump moral issues. Church attending aside, money seems to win out at the end of the day.
I was recently in a conversation with a group of acquaintances and the politics of the day became the topic. This group was diverse with both genders and multiple races. Most of the participants knew my position except the new black female who had recently joined the group. She immediately said she was an independent even though she had voted for President Obama in 2008. She assured us she wouldn’t repeat that mistake. It was noted that blacks typically vote for Democrats. Of course, she could not understand why blacks would blindly vote the Democratic ticket. She admitted that her older brother and mother always vote for the Democrats. So I turned up the heat and inquired, “why don’t you ask them why they always vote for the Democrats?” “Oh, no” she protested, “I wouldn’t want to start an argument.” But that’s just the problem; we don’t want to start arguments when our very lives and country are at stake. I’ve had arguments with people over many things, but when I find that everyone is thinking alike, someone isn’t thinking.
In America blacks have enjoyed freedom for almost 150 years; or have they really? I have determined that the era from 1863 until the mid 1960’s was a long march toward freedom. Now it seems we are in a march back to slavery. This slavery is different from the former; it’s a slavery of the mind. So which is worse, to be a slave physically or a slave mentally? If you can enslave a man’s mind his body will follow. Conversely, if his mind is free it matters less what you do to his body. If the love of money is where his heart is, then he will do whatever it takes, including voting against his best interest to get the money. As Harriet Tubman once said, “I freed a thousand slaves; I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.” People who follow blindly after the crowd are at best in mental poverty and at worst captive to mental slavery. It is much better to live in physical poverty and be rich in spirit than to be poor in spirit and monetarily rich.
Some people won’t like what I’m saying but it needs to be thought through to its logical conclusion. I have been accused of being a turncoat or an Uncle Tom, but what underlies this accusation? Could it mean I am not part of the monolithic black masses that must obey whatever the “Black Leader” tells us to do? Conversely, here is another reason blacks should vote for the Republicans. The majority of Republicans respect individual rights where the majority of Democrats respect the power of the group. This is the reason that the labor unions vigorously support Democratic politicians and not Republican politicians. To move in Democratic circles you have to get along and go along even if you disagree. With the Republicans you can think your own mind, which helps all of society think clearer and progress more rapidly. Politically correct speech is a poor choice as compared to free speech. The Progressive Democrats make sure that your speech is monitored. Conservative Republicans assert your right to say what you please whether they like it or not. Which sounds more like freedom to you? And more fundamentally, do you still hold freedom paramount?
Three and a half years have passed since my initial conversation with my friend, and now we are looking at another election. The elephant in the room can be illustrated in yet another question. Should blacks continue to vote for Democrats and watch their standard of living deteriorate due to lack of jobs and high inflation? These problems beset them even though they are voting what they believe to be in their economic best interest. Should they reevaluate their party affiliation to line up with their moral positions? Life is full of paradoxes. There are times when a person must do what seems to be counterproductive to actually become more productive.
How does a person know she is in the midst of a paradox? Usually when what she has done repeatedly isn’t working, and what seems contradictory is the only other legitimate option. Has much changed for Black America since they started voting primarily for the Democratic Party? Not really. I remember back in the late 70’s and early 80’s when the cry continually rang out, “Last hired, first fired.” The work place was unfair. Is this true today? Currently we have an official national unemployment rate of 9%; among blacks that rate is 16% nearly twice as high, remember we are using the government’s official numbers. So, even if blacks insist on voting for dollars over morals, their votes are being cast for the wrong party. The unemployment rate was actually less when the country was ruled by Republicans. The black voting bloc appears to have placed itself in a lose/lose situation.
So why would blacks vote against their personal best interest? Could the source be tracked to where they gather their information and influence? The Nielsen Company reports that blacks watch more television than any other ethnic group. It is safe to say that if blacks get their news from TV network news it will be skewed to the left. Proof of this comes from a UCLA study that says in part, “While the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal is conservative, the newspaper's news pages are liberal, even more liberal than The New York Times. The Drudge Report may have a right-wing reputation, but it leans left. Coverage by public television and radio is conservative compared to the rest of the mainstream media. Meanwhile, almost all major media outlets tilt to the left.” Not only will they receive news left of center but they will constantly be hit with negative images of themselves. PsychiatryOnline.org reports, “The images seen in media, in general, and on TV, in particular, perpetuate these negative stereotypes about African Americans and impact majority society’s views of Blacks.” The average Black American household watches 213 hours of television per month or over 7 hours per day (not including DVD’s, streamed online content or mobile content). If the message that is received is “don’t trust the right, Republicans are racist or the easy way to make money is to be a gangster,” how many hours of this content can a group absorb before it becomes a way of life? It is commonly known that repetition is the mother of learning. Anything repeated as many hours as the TV habits of blacks will change a group’s perspective. I recall in the mid 1970’s when blacks first starred in TV shows. The average black family was depicted as a poor, uneducated group of wise crackers with at least one that was criminally inclined. When I was sent to a predominately white private school, I was expected to fit in this stereotype. Not doing so made me very unpopular. I was not the “typical” black like the ones on TV. I was the one who didn’t know his place. Now the black image is the gangster rapper and I have observed that even if you’re not a gangster you need to walk, talk and dress like a gangster. What, you may ask, does this have to do with voting? This is the medium used to make the monolithic black voting bloc. If blacks believe that they all must be alike then they will all vote alike.
So, why should blacks vote Republican in 2012? Blacks should once again vote for hope and change but this time hope in the American Dream and change to valuing individual thinking and upward mobility. Let’s start a new tradition, one of empowerment based upon personal intellectual freedom. If blacks are looking for a major party that “likes” them, maybe we are looking for the wrong thing. It’s not about who claims to like you most or who will pay the most lip service to you to get your vote. It’s about ideas and how they will shape policies that will or will not work for our society. I urge you to take a chance and see if we can right a ship gone wrong. If 90% of us continue to vote Democrat then we will be irrelevant to both parties. If we never vote for Republicans, why would they ever listen to our concerns? Also, if we always vote for Democrats no matter if they fulfill their promises or not, why should they listen? See the paradox? May this be the time for you to consider a change?
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Right Black, I don't agree with you but respect your right to view the GOP as you see it to be in your sight. I have an opinion on the two pertinent questions you feel blacks must decide in 2012. #1 Yes, The majority of blacks will vote Democratic again. #2 Yes, In fact the Republican ideas are no secret and they have no plans for Black America. In fact they have no plans for the working class of any race. I don't see any reason for blacks or any member of the working class to vote Republican. Being a businessman you may love the GOP for personal reasons but most Blacks have a different view.
Very well-written article.
You assume that blacks should vote for conservatives because of their shared religious and moral values. First of all, I'd be interested in seeing that study. I have no doubt that it is correct, but I also know that black Americans have more premarital sex than white Americans, and begin having sex at an earlier age. So perhaps the study is really looking at a segment of black America (those more likely to vote, for instance).
Secondly, more importantly, assuming the shared values are there, why should that be the basis of voting for someone? Why shouldn't a person prefer to vote for policies that benefit them economically? And isn't this all the more legitimate for someone who (as most blacks are) more vulnerable economically?
I'm not suggesting that liberal policies are more economically beneficial than conservative ones--that's another whole discussion.
But I'm talking about voting for values versus material well-being.
Just about every black person I know is conservative (although not necessarily Republican, they didn't vote for Obama in 2008). No black person that I know fairly well is a Democrat. Then again, I live an anomalous life. Most of the people I know well either homeschool their kids or send them to private school.
The Democrats view on economics hurt black people in the end. Becoming dependent upon entitlements doesn't help people. It's hard to advance at that state because once you start getting raises, you have to start giving up benefits.
In addition, all these entitlements just add to the stereotypes about black people. Not all black people like rap music, live in the "hood", are on welfare, or are hooligans, yet there are some people that think that. It doesn't help that there are some black people that are hooked on these entitlements and don't even see a different way of life for themselves.
I'll bet that Jesus would have voted for a harlot before he voted for a moneylender.
The Democrats haven't done a thing for black Americans. If anything they helped them to become dependent on big government to solve their problems. Up interesting, useful and oh so awesome.
You make a good case from the well-known moral views of most blacks which people today identify now as conservative. The reasons blacks won't overwhelmingly vote republican is 1. They don't like us, never will for the most part. 2 In most cases, blacks out-moral conservative, amoral, tirelessly-plotting whites. For all of us to officially join them now... It would create a rift within the party looking like the Civil War. 3. They would make a shamble of policy and rewrite laws to circumvent their black GOP-mates. 4. To dessert Obama now would be brain damage, as you all have no one who approaches his legislative experience, work-ethic, moral fiber, professionalism and family values. SO STOP IT ALREADY!
I'm obviously a black person as well but with both Republicans and Democrats in my family and inner circle. However, I'm more middle of the road. I think the new era of progressive thinking is having no allegiance to either party. I couldn't in my right mind and completely sober, vote for a Rick Perry, Mitt Romney, Bachman, Cain, Newt Gingrich or whomever and respect myself in the morning. Nor did McCain seem like a viable option over Obama in any way shape or form---especially after he recruited his credential-less, blithering idiot running mate who couldn't even answer basic questions. To a large degree, many blacks voted for Obama and it was not just a race issue. Obama was smooth with good temperament, intelligent, seemed to have great ideas (at the time) and seemed competent. McCain seemed old, inconsistent, cranky and ran a horrible campaign who's main plan was to try an undo whatever 'that one' said or did. In fairness to any person of color that voted for Obama, this wasn't just voting for the "black guy". To many black voters, for once in our Nation's history there was actually a black candidate running----AND he was actually the best man given our options. Naturally, most supported.
Blacks typically do vote democratically, but not every black person votes democratic because they're brainwashed, or trained to, voting against their interests or what have you. It's an individual thing for me and the other side doesn't relate to many progressive minded people on many important issues, black or white. I'm not a democrat and I believe in many conservative viewpoints. On a National level however, I tend to lean more on the liberal side of the fence and I don't believe in the current ideas coming from the GOP. For instance, I believe in the legalization and decriminalization of marijuana. It's modern day prohibition, stupid, and bereft of positive results to keep it illegal.I support the existence of the EPA (Corporations want to eradicate it along with other government agencies so that big industries can dump and pollute wherever they want without regulation or consequence because it's cheaper). I believe in universal healthcare (private corporations want to protect their profits and keep healthcare private as the uninsured go broke or die). The GOP seems to be the party that champion these corporate interests. In addition, a lot of the GOP candidates are eerily preaching religion, talking about eradicating government environmental programs, preaching smaller government because it threatens our freedom--which really means freedom for corporations to be unregulated, Romney preaching that corporations are people too etc, ---I don't want any of that crap in office. It has nothing to do with an allegiance to the democratic party because I have none, but everything to do with my vision for America. Voting for Democratic candidates is not voting against black interests.
I also understand that historically the Republic party has done more for the African American cause, but this is not the same party. It's an old franchise clearly under new management.
In a nutshell, I don't think simply switching sides is the answer. It's a much bigger paradigm than that and the game is designed to split us up. I believe in stepping out of the game and party lines completely---and making our like minded values heard. Both parties, both secretly controlled by veiled entities, get to do their dirt by splitting up our values and having us pick sides and committing to agendas all in or nothing.
Regardless, good job on a good read and an interesting hub.
maxoxam41, thanks for reading and commenting. The answer to your questions is, certainly not. Those questions are problems that happened once blacks became supporters of the Democrats. If you look back to when more blacks voted Republican (before the 1970's) you will see that blacks were making progress. This is not so once they started voting for the Democrats.
junko, thanks for your comments. I'm not sure why you would think that prosperity for all Americans is a bad thing? As far as being a business man is concerned, I'm looking for a job. So much for Democratic policies. Just so you know, about half the businesses in my business park have gone out of business, I'm just one. It looks like a ghost town.
secularist10, thanks for the comments. The reason a person would vote for someone with the same moral values is that they are more likely to get laws and judgments that fit their values. The point I am making is, it doesn't matter whether blacks vote with Democrats for economic reasons, they are still being had. The black community is in worse shape now than it was before most of us started voting for Democrats. If you're not saying that Democratic economic policies are better then only value issues would matter.
Right Black, I don't know why you would think I think prosperity for all Americans is a bad thing???. Iam sadden to hear about your business and the other businesses around you, but thats the teaparty and conservatives call. They are still calling the shots on jobs and the economy even while Obama is President. Theyare controling both houses of congress. Obama is president in name only, PINO.
Brooke Lorren, thanks for the comments. Sounds like you live in a community of thoughtful, moral and caring Americans. Good personal finances are always preferable to entitlements no matter the race.
Chasuk, you are so correct. Thanks for commenting.
breakfastpop,thanks again for reading and commenting on my thoughts.
pointblank009, thanks for reading and commenting. I didn't claim that Republicans like blacks (they may, they may not, I don't know) but I do know that Democrats don't like us any more than Republicans. The Democrats have a long history to prove it. It's ironic that you would say that blacks becoming part of the Republican party would start a rift like the Civil War when it was the very party that caused the Southern Democrats to leave the Union. I know that there is no proof of what the Republicans would do if we joined the party in numbers. Well, maybe there is, how about all the things they did when we were part of it before. Remember, all the civil rights acts and amendments and anti-lynching laws, should I go on? As far as President Obama is concerned I have no idea what his personal family life is like and he certain does seem to have a good work ethic. He is probably a very nice guy. He just has ideas that are bad for America.
druhepkins, thanks for the insightful comments. I hate to say it but you sound pretty committed to the Democrats for someone who isn't committed. As far as the Republican party being an old franchise under new management, for the sake of argument, let's say it's so. The Democrats are an old franchise under the same management with new tactics. Which is worse? If you believe that the Republicans don't want to help blacks, okay. But I know that the Democrats want to mentally enslave us and abort as many black babies as possible. Again, which is worse?
I find it amazing that you hate Corporate America. Where do many Americans work, who invents and makes all the things you use on a daily basis. How is it that we enjoy so many creature comforts if not for the "evil" corporations. Even the Occupy Wall Street protesters were dressed in the rags of Corporate America. None of us like pollution, on that we can agree but many of the EPA regulations are there just to grease the palms of corrupt politicians of both parties. That is why I put little confidence in the person but the parties ideas and values. A parties platform speaks to what the members believe and uphold not just one individual. Again, thanks for the comments but you sound very committed to the Democrats to me.
junko, seems you haven't paid much attention to who's been in power for the last 5 years. The Democrats held both houses of congress for 4 years with the presidency 2 of those and they still control the Senate and presidency today. The House has passed bill after bill and budget after budget just to have the Democratic run Senate not vote on them. Last I heard the Tea Party controls neither houses of congress. As far as, President Obama being a president in name only, if this is true, great job if you can get it. He seems to be passing much of his agenda by executive orders anyway. So much for PINO.
Thanks for the article. While I disagree that Blacks should vote republican, I love the fact that you wrote the article and are fostering rich conversation. We need a lot more of that to break out of our (we blacks) ingrained and detrimental thinking. Personally, I call this the Black Psychosis and I have written a hub about it.
Nonetheless, while Blacks' moral stance may align with the Republican platform, our beliefs and behaviors are tied to a race consciousness. We see our blackness every day and we see racism. This is the lens for a majority of blacks. As a result, there is built in distrust for Republicans. Republicans don't reach out to Blacks and form alliances with Black leaders. Democrats, while just as duplicitous as Republicans, have a history of helping Blacks and tend to cater to Blacks during political seasons.
For Republicans to begin reeling in Black votes, they will need to extend their hands to the Black community as a whole, not just the middle class and rich blacks. They need to provide a persuasive argument to the poorer Blacks as to why it's in their best interest to support the Republican party. They also need to start building a trusting relationship. None of that has been done. Blacks are skeptical. They feel that if the Republicans had their way, Blacks would stop receiving social services and be in jeopardy of extinction in America. Right or wrong, I think Republicans need to extend the olive branch.
I've spent a long while looking for the answer to why Jews vote democratic. Basically, they came here from Europe and didn't know about our system, so when they read the descriptions, democrats sounded better. Add the fear democrats throw into the mix - right wing nazis and so on - and they don't know which way to turn. I'd guess black people are also afraid of republicans. Maybe one of these days, if the republicans elect enough of the right people, they will rebrand themselves.
CoryBry, thanks for reading and I hope you found it mentally stimulating. First, I'm not sure how blacks having race consciousness equals distrust of Republicans? Why doesn't it equal distrust of Democrats? The Democrats are the ones who have a history of mistreating blacks not the Republicans. The Republicans may not give us special treatment but at least they don't do what the Democrats have done. Yes, the Democrats gave us special treatment, alright. The Democrats enslaved us, then once we were freed they lynched us, once lynching was outlawed they segregated us, once segregation was banned then they told us they love us and now we believe them. Something seems wrong here, wouldn't you agree? The reason the Republicans don't reach out to the "Black Leaders" is because the "Black Leaders" are only about enriching themselves. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are rich, yet no one can point to any legitimate job that either of them has had.
I agree that the Republicans need to woo all black voters but this is difficult when blacks only listen to their specific leaders who don't have their best interest in mind anyway. These leaders are the ones who break the olive branch not Republican Party Leaders like Michael Steele, a black man.
sheila b., thanks for the comment. I'm not sure if a re-branding of the Republican Party will do anything to help the situation since it is more of a problem of who blacks are listening too. We are taking the wrong advice from the wrong people and believing the revisionist history of the left. Thanks again for reading.
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Well, that's all well and good, but it doesn't seem to be working for the conservatives. America has become less religious and more accepting of liberal and non-traditional values over many decades. This trend has really been underway for over a century. And it has only accelerated in recent years. If I were a religious conservative, I would probably just cut my losses on the culture at large and withdraw into my own private community.
People disagree on values and cultural issues, but at least we can all agree on the desire for more material prosperity and safety. That's where I would put my political action.
This is a red herring argument. The writer is preaching on moral philosophical grounds which are too esoteric for the average Black American. Not that we can't understand it, but because we ARE HUNGRY AND NEED JOBS!!! The banners of Religion have enslaved most Black people, telling us to wait for good times in heaven.
What does the writer say about the effort by these so-called conservative [heretics] to disenfranchise Black and minority votes? It is the Republicans that seek to turn the clock back. They would rather have us tithing to a church than looking for work.
Just because this writer writes well does not mean that he has anything to say. Morals be damned--the Republicans have lost any right to claim the moral high ground when one looks back at their strategical and tactical actions, especially with regard to politics. My only hope is that they will be voted back into obsolescence where they'll have more time to pray and make amends for their unpatriotic actions.
Right Black, this is an excellent hub, and I'm impressed by your logic and reasoning. I also like your calm tone and your refusal to descend to name-calling or sarcasm. This is a very touchy subject, as some of the previous comments make clear, and you handle it well. Kudos--voted up.
Sorry, didn't mean to take so long (school). Anyway, I'm no democrat---very conservative on a variety of issues. But yes again I already conceded that I do lean democratic as far as my voting history. And for the record, being against the current cast and crew in the GOP doesn't automatically make you a democrat or anti-Republican, it just means you're awake. Most usually of late, and although they're also corrupt, the dems have more attractive candidates and ideology. The GOP desperately need a face lift. There's no talent in the party at the moment, or anyone that represents anything remotely electable. Nor do I agree with many of the GOP's views at the moment. Parties change and the GOP has. The current flip-flopping of zany candidates with stupid ideas is a perfect example. And non political pariahs, including some who've never even held public office, incessantly emerge and hold an enormous amount of weight in the party from time to time like Rush Limbaugh and Donald Trump. The current GOP cast and crew are a joke. And currently the GOP ideas are heavily corporation/lobbyist influenced, incorrect and weak---and the main focus has incessantly been to grab your pitch fork and get Obama. Currently in the party, the world's most famous "comb over" Birth-er, and reality show hosting political distraction is moderating a Republican presidential debate??? A debate in which Newt Gingrich is the front runner??? And yes, that's where we're at.
Regardless, I'm unattached and I feel choosing a party and sticking by it is a form of mental conditioning and institutionalization. It stifles open, free thought. When you really think about it, there's absolutely no way any normal, logical and reasonable person can be 100% Republican or 100% Democrat in this political climate. That's exactly what the veiled elite wanted and want us to pick sides. Because of the political charade of picking sides, people become battle ready and psychotically overzealous about the things they believe in that their party supports, and learn to justify the things they probably wouldn't---through party comradery, brainwashing and institutionalization. For instance, absolutely no one in their right mind should agree with getting rid of the EPA, FDA or any other agencies established for our protection. Yet people do when their party says so. Also, to be pro life and believe in conservative values is one thing, but to also disavow scientific factual evidence toward climate change and ignore environmental concerns for the sake of party loyalty and abidance to party rhetoric concerns me as well. I pay no allegiance to either party because it isn't progressive. It pulls people away from the center, toward fixed stubborn perspectives be them right or wrong. Believe me, I'm also very aware that the majority of Obama's campaign donors come from Wall St---which is primarily why justice hasn't been done, banks were bailed out, and no one has been collared for Wall Street's transgressions. I will not side with either party.
And I don't hate corporate America at all. I have an s-corp myself. I hate "corporatization". It's America's downfall and one of the reasons Rome is burning. Corporations aren't run with a human conscious and do not consider societal concerns. Corporations unchecked and unregulated, steamroll right over society. Of course corporate industry help a nation's economy, but corporate greed ruins it and also compromises our political discourse while its happening. The biggest industries that rake in BILLIONS of dollars constitute the same companies that audaciously slide through tax loops----while the average citizen gets hammered. Corporations downsize as much as possible while continuously sending American jobs overseas for cheaper labor. Banks, phone companies, Payday Loans and other industries keep implementing more unnecessary fees and charges for more profit if unchallenged by the people or government.
Even despite a recession, several industries are making more money than ever before---in the billions. Still however, companies haven't raised startup salaries for entry level or low level employees since the 80's. They've only raised salaries for CEO's and top level execs tremendously. Corporations also try to block regulation on toxic dumping and other practices harmful to the environment. They also aggressively try to block and stamp out lawsuits to anyone they've already effected healthwise. And regarding the foreclosure issue in this country, the government and politicians have leaned in to protect the banks, but not human beings who lived there.
In a nutshell, our subservience to corporate interests is extremely harmful. It's naive to believe corporations are all awesome, help the economy, are trustworthy, and will always do what they ought to. They've already proven they aren't deserving of our trust and we should have a cautious fear of them because they do hurt us ---BADLY. They CAN be good for society and the economy when we don't naively allow them to monopolize and give them all the power to do whatever they want. They serve society best when they are given peripheries, competition, guidelines and regulation. They need to be held to specific standards. Growing in power and left to their own devices however, Wall Street, Banks and Corporations are extremely dangerous and make life difficult for most, as the few cash in.
Anyway, I don't feel simply voting Republican instead of democratic is a solution for anything. Especially to blacks who aren't concerned with Christianity, are pro choice, are for gay rights and same sex marriage, and are environmental conscious. I feel bipartisan cooperation is a step in the right direction. I also feel most people serve society best by staying objective and less susceptible to blind party loyalty.
secularist10, thanks for commenting. I find it interesting that non-religious people find a need to moralize about religious people and then try to tell us what to do with our freedom. I'm sure that if you were a religious conservative you wouldn't give up on society. Our strength is that we believe in a power greater than ourselves and that power changes lives, we are simple messengers.
twoYsur2ysub, thanks for your comments but I find it very alarming that you think my arguments "are too esoteric for the average Black American." If we want to solve the hunger and jobs problem we might first look to the moral problem. This is a hard paradox but none the less a true one. I'm not saying wait until you get to heaven. I'm saying deal with it now. Those of us who believe in a higher power believe that those who live a moral life are rewarded in this world and the next. What form that reward takes in this world is contingent on a number of factors but in the USA one of those rewards would surely be economic to some extent. Put very bluntly, God doesn't reward those who are intentionally participating in the destruction of defenseless human beings. God didn't bless the south for slavery and he will not bless those who have a moral basis and still knowingly vote for the champions of abortion. If this is "too esoteric" then maybe as a race we are to ignorant to understand? I don't know, I hope not.
The disenfranchisement of blacks is something done by the Democrats. They are the ones who did it historically and they are the ones who disenfranchise blacks by taking our votes for nothing. If the Republicans turn back the clock you would see that the Republicans have always been the party that has defended blacks. If the clock were turned back you would be worked and feed by your Democratic master. LOOK at your history! The Republican Party was founded to free US! Do you dislike someone because they will not patronize and use you and love the other because he will?
Finally, we have plenty of time to pray and prayer has always been patriotic.
Leah Helensdottr, thanks for the compliments and comment.
druhepkins, thanks for your comments. First I would like to commend you for being open minded and not being a sure Democrat vote. What I am arguing is that in our system, where two parties are really running things, it is more important not to let one party take us for granted. That is what the Democrats are doing. I have a certain amount of agreement with some of your other arguments but this is outside of the scope of my article. I am arguing that if blacks are nearly as conservative morally as Republicans then a larger percentage should be voting for them. Also, if morals really don't matter and economics is the number one issue, they should still look at Republican solutions as an alternative. It is painfully obvious to me that black votes are being taken for granted and the return on those votes is almost non-existent.
I'm not saying Black people don't understand esoteric thought. I'm saying that it's just not important right now, as people are struggling to eat and keep a roof over their heads. I find it very endearing that Blacks thank Lincoln by ascribing to that party's beliefs, but that was 1 and 1/2 centuries ago. They are not the same party today. I also notice you haven't touched upon the current Machiavellian machinations of your party who are doing everything they can to make sure Blacks don't get a vote: period. How can you segregate morality here, when they're trying to take Blacks back to when we couldn't vote? You cannot be willfully blind to the GOP today because you hold the Great Emancipator in such high esteem. That GOP party has been dead for some time. What we have now is an abomination. DEMS do take us for granted. But GOP takes us for fools. Those are our choices, moral or otherwise. I'll be taken for granted, yet again, rather than cease to exist... which is what the GOP prays for so fervently.
twoYsur2ysub, if thinking isn't ALWAYS important then what is? The only reason I turned back the clock is because you suggested it. You said, "It is the Republicans that seek to turn the clock back." So if the Republicans seek to turn the clock back they were the champions of black freedom not enslavement. Even if the Republicans turned the clock back to the 1960's they were the champions of civil rights. I hope you will recall that there would be no Civil Rights Act of 1964 or Voting Rights Act of 1965 without the Republican Party. So what thanks have they gotten, blacks vote for the party who really disenfranchised them and we have bought the revisionist history that the Democrats were our saviors. Yes, LBJ signed the legislation but it was Republican sponsored. Congress writes legislation, the president signs or vetoes legislation. Should people have to show ID to vote? Why not? Does this disenfranchise blacks? Only if they have no ID. What it really does is disenfranchises those who are illegal or wish to vote more than once. I see nothing wrong with disenfranchising the illegal immigrant or those who vote twice or more.
Funny thing, you think parties are suppose to like you. Get over it, they don't have to like us, what we need is a little respect. If someone takes you for granted you have lost all respect. If you bring a some significant votes to the game, that are not guaranteed, you've gained respect whether they like you or not. The GOP doesn't take us for fools, they see us as non-existent.
I don't think parties like us at all, but I don't think DEMS want poor people out on the street. GOP is creating a have and have not system, like in a 3rd world country. I just don't think you can claim GOP to be our saviors now, when they are so obviously trying to turn us out and into the streets.
Their disrespect of the President of the United States is another reason to loathe them. They should be found treasonous in wanting the nation to fail under his watch. This is not the time to champion the GOP, when they are so obviously in the pockets of the rich. I don't want a hand out, but I'd like to be able to find an insurance company who will accept my money even though I have a pre-existing condition. Thanks, insurance industry. Thanks GOP.
I like your writing--it's very engaging and thought-provoking. I'd like to see you apply it in another way, however, because you're barking up the wrong tree trying to get the 99% to even think of the Republicans as Americans. They are monarchists, and the kingdom is for the rich.
twoYsur2ysub, you are right the DEMS don't want people out on the streets but you are wrong if you think the GOP does. Think about it, that just isn't good politics. The two parties just have different solutions to the same problem. I'm not saying the GOP is our savior. I'm saying that the GOP as a party has better ideas. Find he GOP platform and read it then read the DEMS platform.
I can't believe you loathe the GOP for their "disrespect of the President of the United States." Did you loathe the DEMS when they disrespected the previous president? It might be a good idea not to ask who is really in the pocket of the rich? Look at who donated the most to Obama's campaign last election and you'll find "the rich."
The insurance business is a gamble. You are gambling that you will get sick before you spend too much for it and they are gambling that you stay well. But really it's not health care insurance that is most important, it's health care. In America everyone gets health care. The rich get better health care because they can pay more for it but this is true even in countries that have universal health care. The only difference is their rich have to come here.
Thanks for the compliment but I chose to fight this battle because I want you to think. If you don't agree with me, I can handle that, as long as you are really thinking.
I very much enjoyed your extraordinary article. One of my favorite lines is: "Politically correct speech is a poor choice as compared to free speech."
Amen!
The black author Erik Rush notes in his book, 'Negrophilia':
"The Democrats play the lenient, indulgent parent. Plying the 'child' with goodies to win their affection, they also realized that this would give them power over their opposition . . . Whatever the kid wanted to do, they let him do it. All the while the tolerant parent demonized the other [Conservatives or Republicans], warping the child's perceptions of them and their motives. As a result, the offspring gravitated toward the indulgent parent . . . and resented the strict parent."
"Thus the black man became spoiled, arrogant, lazy, and incompetent, with a feeling of entitlement. They behaved anti-socially, and found it nearly impossible to succeed within the merit-based paradigm of society. . . . Eventually, their behavior landed them in the penitentiary."
This may be a bit harsh, and you might not agree with him, but I thought it an interesting concept.
Your commenter 'sheila b." mused above that she couldn't figure out why Jews vote for Democrats. I read something about that lately. I don't remember where I read it but it was recently. The writer said that Jews who are religious—who follow Judaism—vote for Conservative candidates. People who are Jewish by birth but have lost the connection to their traditions, customs, and religion tend to vote for ideologies that tear down the traditions of whatever country they find themselves. Having lost their own, they don't want anybody else to have theirs either. That might explain why so many Jews have been prominent Marxists.
Anyway, your Hub is great and I agree with you.
You condescend to comment on whether you believe I am thinking? You are selective in your responses, my friend. What do YOU think about the Republican ploy to disenfranchise minority voters? Perhaps, you are the one who doesn't want to think. I believe I've asked this question twice already, and you've not "thought" on paper about it, at least.
If you look at a party, do so in its totality. I agree that DEMS like to speak for minorities, and it backfires. But who are you kidding about the GOP? No one liked Bush but the DEMS did not restrict his every move like they're doing this President. The Bush Wall Street cronies looted the country before leaving office, and left the mess for Pres. Obama to clean up. Since when does a government respond by giving out billions upon billions of dollars in response to a 2-3 page memo that says, "Don't ask questions. Give us the money!" And Obama, left to deal with the mess is being excoriated by being unlucky enough to follow the worst President in US history. Bush stole the election but was allowed to proceed. Obama won it fair and square and he's being treated like an imposter. I bet you believe he's a Kenyan national, right?
You may be "thinking" but you're thinking as an ideologue not as a practical person. If you're in your ivory tower, sure we can discuss which party is better. I say, step down from your tower and get in the trenches. GOP is all about money for themselves--the poor be damned. They can drive in limousines and not see the homeless, and not feel a bit of responsibility for their fellow men.
Your definition of the word "thinking" is a bit skewed. If you could stop waxing philosophic and tell me what you think about what the GOP assemblies, governors, and party are doing to disenfranchise minority voters, perhaps you can teach this thinker a thing or two. I haven't heard much yet.
James, thanks for the comments. That Erik Rush always gives one much to think about. I certainly believe he makes great points about blacks and the Democratic party.
twoYsur2ysub, I think you've misunderstood my comment. I am affirming that you are thinking that is why I have no problem with your dissenting point of view. It was a statement not a question, no question mark.
I have obviously not been clear enough in regard to the disenfranchisement of black voters by the GOP. I think the GOP is disenfranchising absolutely no one who is here legally and a citizen with the right to vote. Showing an ID disenfranchises no one. Everyone in America can get an ID if they want one. If they don't want one they don't want to vote. The only one who is disenfranchised is the cheat.
I disagree with Pres. Obama on almost everything but I never disrespect the office of the President of the United States nor do I disrespect the man. I too believe the birthers are misinformed but the great thing about this country is that everyone has the right to think as they wish, no matter what party. Yes, you can call me an ideologue if you want since I'm only arguing that blacks should stop being tools for the DEMS. The way I see it, the lack of thinking is what got us where we are in the first place, taken for granted. If I remember correctly you're an independent who tends to vote for the DEMS, right? If so, why so testy?
The rich are on both sides, who cares. All I want is a level playing field and a great discussion of who and what is really better for blacks in America.
I'm a Democrat, but a progressive, so I am disillusioned with the Party, but I'll support it. I am "testy" because you deem yourself the arbiter of who and who is not thinking based upon whether they agree with you that the GOP has more to offer than DEMS. For you to validate today's GOP is almost comical, they are so racist (I never openly called anyone racist in my life until this GOP took power). They are corrupt and obstructionists. I am nostalgic for Nixon when I look at your party today.
I guess you think it's okay for Americans to bail out fraudulent criminals who give themselves bonuses for scamming the government. That's the party with a better message? Let them eat pizza? I'd rather not think than think the way the GOP [doesn't] think. They are a disgrace to our country and have turned the US into a third world country. Let me guess what you do for a living: 1) sell insurance 2) cars 3) work at a right wing institution or university, or God forbid 4) receive grant money from the Koch brothers to infiltrate our nation's dialogue to plant GOP propaganda to the "thinking" masses.
Or you're a defense contractor. I'm eager to know who pays your bills. If you tell me you're self-employed, I'll shut up.
Incredible HUB!! thumbs up big time my friend. I totally enjoyed the read and how well you laid every point out. I'm a registered Democrat. I was taught as a young man that the Democratic party is for the poor and the Republicans were for the rich. So being poor as a kid I always listened to the propaganda. As i got older and was able to make my own conclusions I have realized that the democratic party is full of shit and was hijacked by the socialist/marxist party. I'm all for helping the needy but not enabling them. many people go through hard times and we should have safety nets to get them back on their feet, not to enable them and keep them down, just to get their vote. The dems had all three houses for a few years and could not even balance the budget! then they have the nerve to blame the republicans? This country is on the brink of disaster and many people still drink the kool-aid.
also in the 08 election they released both presidential and VP tax returns and it was funny how Obama and Biden gave far less in contributions then McCain and Palin. Most Democrat politicians are hypocrites and also even richer then republicans. Both parties have self absorbed A holes. How do many start their political careers with little money and become very wealthy being a public servant?
Again Great post and will follow you!
twoYsur2ysub, it must be time for you to "shut up." I am self-employed and have been for the last 13 yrs. Again, you should look at who is funding the DEMS and what they are really doing. You seem to be blaming all the nations woes on the GOP. I'm sure you realize that the DEMS took over congress in 2006. It was after they took control that we had the crash. The DEMS were in charge of all three branches of government from 2008 to 2010. Now the DEMS are still in charge of two of the three branches. Whose responsible? But as a progressive you would probably want to see them take over more of America's economy so that all self-employed people will be out of business.
I'm don't know why you think the GOP is more racist than the DEMS maybe you can tell me exactly which incidents you are referring too.
I really do appreciate this discussion and I may not be the arbiter of who is thinking but I think that my opinion is as valid as anyones. If you have chosen not to think then maybe this conversation is meaningless
DannyMaio, thanks for reading and for your comments. Seems that your eyes are open.
Very well written, thoughtful piece. I shall be following you. Voted up and across.
Right Black - I will take a moment of silence and do as promised: shut up.
moonstruck4ever, thanks for your compliment, for reading and for your vote.
twoYsur2ysub, LOL, nice talking to you, I'm sure we'll have other discussions.
Definitely. You're a together Black brother, no matter your politics. You're an excellent writer. I'd like to read a book written by you.
twoYsur2ysub, thanks for the compliment and I'm working on that book!
I believe this is God's world...He makes the rules by which we should live. Currently, America has chosen to put Him on a "back burner". I don't directly blame any of our presidents for our economic woes...I believe SIN is the cause. We have got to stop murdering defenseless babies...stop legalizing same-sex marriages...stem-cell research, stop being anti-Israel, etc. all of which the Dems support and fund.
Margaret, thanks for the comment. I agree as a nation we have forgotten God. We need to go back an remember from where we came. Republicans are not saints but more saints are Republicans.
This study doesn't prove anything. It is grasping at straws at best.
You should vote libertarian because you guys buy the same brand bananas.
You should vote republican because you guys eat the same color cheese.
You should vote democrat because you have the same socks.
African Americans vote predominantly democratic for one simple reason, they are smarter than their republican counterparts.
They have HIGHER IQ's than middle class white republicans.
They understand how government works better than middle class white republicans. They can see right through the right-wing propaganda.
Like I said SMARTER.
Sam, thanks for commenting. Seems to me that you aren't very familiar with philosophical logic. What you have just done is committed several categorical logical fallacies. Eating and clothing preferences have nothing to do with voting but moral and financial issues have everything to do with who a person is more likely to vote for. I think it is great that the first lady has a victory garden at the white house but that doesn't matter at all when people cast their votes. Most people want to know where a politician stand on the issues and the issues are moral and financial. You may not like my opinions but please use a logical argument when you address your disagreement that would make you sound a little bit smarter.
Hey, Right,
This is a useful, awesome, interesting and informative article. You really did speak the truth.
Unfortunately, though, the vast majority of black people have been so deeply brainwashed to view themselves as victims who need constant infusions of government assistance and protection, they will be throwing all of their support behind the socialistic Democrat Party "forever."
In my opinion, and based on my observations, most blacks are not ever going to wake up and see the light. They are going to keep right on marching lock step behind far-left pied pipers -- and they are going to follow those pied pipers all to their final destination, which is hell.
feenix, I must say that I am a realist with optimistic tendencies who holds on to the hope that blacks can slowly wake from the Democratic coma to rethink our party affiliations. I understand that some blacks will always vote for Democrats as long as it suits their needs. Of course, their are others who vote Democrat out of guilt or ignorance, those are the minds I think can change. See I believe our race can rise from the ashes.
Right Black: I just stumbled across your Hub Post while researching for a friend why blacks vote Democrat. I should mention that I am white, my husband is black, we have been married for 25 years (having dated for 8 years prior to that)and we are both conservative. We have a child together who is 16, we do foster care and have another child who is white and now 9 years old that we adopted from foster care when he was 4 years old. My husband and I were once Democrats many years ago, but moved away from the party as it became increasingly progressive/socialist and as we got older, realizing they didn't represent our values anymore. What I find particularly distressing is when people accuse my husband of being a "traitor" to his race, perhaps because he married me, but mostly for his conservative views. I would guess that if you were to research many Americans geneology, you would find that many have mixed racial background, many of whom don't know it. I really wouldn't care if someone was purple. I care mostly about the content of a person' character. But getting back to my husband, it is insulting that people think he should think a certain way because of the color of his skin. As to why I was researching the topic of why blacks vot Democrat, it was because I was having a discussion with a friend of mine who happens to be black, and he was surprised that I was not voting for Obama. I gave all my reasons, which were all based on policy and he accused the GOP of being racist. I gave him information about how the republican party was formed, by abolitiionists, and he retorted by saying that the republicans' morals have declined since then and that they no longer support blacks. So, I wanted to give him information so that he could research for himself. I made a copy of your Hub post "Why Do Blacks Vote Democrat" and plan to give it to him. I enjoyed reading some of your other Hub posts as well as the discussion that follows each, and will continue to do so. Thanks!
VTLady, I've heard the same comments as you can tell from some of the posts. I hope that what I wrote can be of help to you when speaking with your friends. I also hope that they will remain your friend. Sometimes political disagreements end friendships. Usually (but not always) it is the liberal who doesn't have sound arguments who ends the friendship. So, I would walk lightly and ask a lot of questions, a la the Socratic method to get your friends to see how ridiculous the liberal arguments generally are.
Wow, Rightblack, I recently came across your posts and I really give you a lot of credit - you are really fighting an uphill battle. I'm a republican who lives in Venice, CA, surrounded by dems and liberals and I am constantly trying to right wrongs and misperceptions by people that have been taught that all Republicans are evil, greedy and racist. When I ask for specific examples, though, I get no solid argument. I find that these people get their information from shows like Bill Maher, Colbert, Schultz, Lawrence O'Donnell, etc, all who are blatantly and vehemently against Republicans, and almost without fail, have no meaningful, factual basis for their accusations. What I find interesting when I try to discuss actual facts with liberals is they either get mad and don't want to talk about it, or they say I'm watching Fox news. I'm sorry, but a fact is a fact, doesn't matter where it comes from.
I was reading your back and forth with twoYsur2.. and noticed that he commented on "how The Bush Wall Street cronies looted the country before leaving office, and left the mess for Pres. Obama to clean up. Since when does a government respond by giving out billions upon billions of dollars in response to a 2-3 page memo that says, "Don't ask questions. Give us the money!" I wish you had reminded him that it was the Democrats that had the majority vote for the tarp and in fact, it did not pass the first time around because not enough republicans voted for it. Sure, Bush was president, but the DEMS voted it in. Most people forget this, or never knew it.
He also mentions several times about Republicans trying to disenfranchise Black voters. How? What is his example? I know you commented back about needing to have an ID, but that just seems like common sense. Is this really what he is referring to? And how would that disenfranchise just black voters? Seems to me it would only disenfranchise people that didn't have an ID. But really, who wouldn't have an ID? You need an ID to drive a car, even rent a movie. Why didn't he mention the DMV and blockbuster as disenfranchising people? I don't get the argument.
I also feel, as you do, that the Dems are holding blacks back by assuming that they need more help than whites. That they somehow need government help to survive. It is that mindset that I think has kept them with the Dems for so long. Racism is being kept alive, not by whites, but by politicians, news, media, etc that are constantly injecting race into every situation.
I know it's an uphill battle, but I feel we are fighting the good fight, trying to shed light on a lot of misperceptions and I for one, won't give up. By the way, since everyone else is saying their ethnicity, I'm a white female. I'm sure some people will say this disqualifies me from having a conversation regarding blacks, but on the contrary, if everyone got into the conversation, we would be a lot further along than we are now.
Lisha, thanks for the comment. You made some excellent points. I am in the process of upping my engagement and will soon engage this battle kind of like the New England Patriots do in football. That is with a high powered offense. I'll be writing exactly how in May. Thanks for reading and we are fighting the good fight. There are millions of mental slaves who need freeing and we all need to help them reach the promise land no matter what race they are. America's left is nothing more than a mental slave plantation.
I can't wait to read more of your posts. It's nice to know that there are like-minded people in SoCal. I don't feel so alone!
Ihallek, thanks for he comment. SoCal is a Democratic stronghold but I am of the opinion that this too can change.
Lisha and lhallek: I know exactly how you feel. I live in VT, the State that elects socialists like Bernie Sanders and Progressives, Patrick Leahy and Peter Welch. I too, live among liberals and worse yet, work in Health Care which is loaded with uber liberal people. They are trying to pass single payer healthcare in our state. It is disheartening, at best, and down right depressing most of the time. Obama just visited our state and for days it was all people talked about. Sickening... I co-facilitate a grassroots tea party group and we are trying our best to change attitudes here. We know it will take a long time to do, and I hope I can stick with it. I'm at a point where I'm feeling like I want to move to a more conservative state, but that would be extremely hard to do at this point in my life. I am also working for the campaign of Randy Brock, a conservative candidate for Governor, but historically, it is very hard to unseat an incumbent in this state. I love your posts Right Black...keep it up...BTW you should check out Randy Brock for governor of VT. He's a man that you would really like! Here's a link with info. about him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP0BXfKdguo
VTlady thanks for the solidarity! Btw, Lisha and lhallek are one and the same. I signed up after I wrote the first post. It is very comforting to know that there are other people who feel the same. I am constantly working on people here, little by little. People who were raised to think that republicans are somehow the enemy. How can they help it, though? We are flooded with it in the media and entertainment. I can't seem to watch a movie these days that doesn't degrade, diminish or marginalize republicans in some way. It won't be the focus of the movie, but there will always be a "dig" in there somewhere. I was watching "Midnight in Paris" and Rachel McAdam's father was a republican, although I'm not sure how that was pertinent to the story and Owen Wilson was, of course, calmly talking to her father,"Your father defends the right wing of the republican party and I happen to think that you almost have to be like a.. demented lunatic." Not funny and completely political. What about The Time Traveler's Wife? Remember her father? Who was rich, a hunter and also a republican (who also resembled Dick Cheney), and was the one that accidentally shot the main character while hunting. Does this sound familiar? Liberals have taken over the entertainment industry, or maybe they were always there, but I just notice it more now. So, our kids see it every day in the movies, tv shows like Family Guy (that just had a horrible episode about Rush limbaugh), bill maher, the list goes on and on. Then when they go to college, they are taught by liberal professors who push their point of view. How can they not have a negative viewpoint about republicans? The fight is daunting, but I do my part by planting seeds every day. Every day, I make a comment to someone which makes them think. If we plant the seeds, it will take hold and grow.
VTLady, keep up the good fight. The only way you can loose is if you give up. If your cause is noble then it doesn't matter if you see the victory in this life, your nobility will be passed down for those who follow you. America is a grand idea worth fighting for. Thanks for being engaged.
lhallek, thanks for the comment and the encouraging words for all of us who are right thinkers.
CoryBry, you are missing the point. From a governmental perspective, it is misguided to deem acceptance in reaching out to groups of people based on race. The goal is to hold everyone accountable to the same standards. It is about individuality & planning for ones self.
12.FC4U, good point, thanks for reading.
An excellent writing that inspired me to hub in reply and the system jumped and it disappeared, maybe for the better. You said:
"It is much better to live in physical poverty and be rich in spirit than to be poor in spirit and monetarily rich."
It doesn't get any clearer than that. Until whitey no longer walks on egg shells in a world that if they say black and a negative, they are crucified as a racist. That sucks. I don't know my heritage, or if I have one, past being born in America that makes me an American and if we go like that I'm a north American and Canadians don't exist, they are north Americans as would be Mexicans, all born on the North American continent, and blacks born here are the same North Americans, like it or not. Black people from what I know were gathered from many places other than Africa so where do they get the politically correct African/American when they like me don't know how their family got started. Thomas Jefferson has a host of black descendents because he banged the house maid, and it took a court order to allow his black descendents to participate in the family reunions. That was a racist issue from those who didn't want to admit that they had black family members.
I served in the Marines, we had green Marines and dark green Marines, we fought together some died together and all cried together.
Until we get past the issue of color there can be no open dialog, this Us and them crap, is tearing this nation apart.
We can work together as soldiers then we can do it as Americans. I came up dirt poor and took chances to get ahead and today those chances are still available but have been crimped severely by our present administration who inherited the Clinton NAFTA and Bush Bail Outs. Every administration has had inherited trouble.
People need to understand our system and how it works and that is a mountain of study, but a smart guy simplified it and broke it down in simple terms right here: http://www.wimp.com/thegovernment/ if one has ears to hear and an honest heart, this explanation will teach them that we are headed toward a bad experience that is totally unnecessary. My preacher from Brooklyn New York has a message that is scary as heck when you listen to it.
I am a "prepper" according to the recent terms, I basically have stored food and medical supplies and ammo. They call it "beans water and ammo" I have enough to keep 12 people for 6 months or 6 for a year. I hope I never need to fall on it, when it comes to selecting who gets in my compound to help keep what is here it will be based on trust rather than color, and the way I like people I may end up feeding a mass that depletes the stores in 30 days. I have faith in Christ that if everyone were to pray unceasingly for all that we might see the fish and bread miracle all over again.
The hate and division must end and I pray for it, knowing that people of all color can come together and make a difference. If the rising Blacks and the rising whites were to admit that we are all humans and join hands the Constitution could be restored sans the limit that was put on the worth of the slaves at if I remember was 3 fifths of a person? I don't know for sure but that part can be changed with a pen.
Check out Dr. David Manning, the preacher with a message, a man of God who can see the horizon. I have been with him since 2008 when he was begging the population and warning the population about obama and the damage he would create, If you search his videos and "the Manning Report" you'll hear him in 2008 warning America that obama would drive us back to the fields of Mississippi, we are not far from there now. He is the anti- sharpton/jackson voice of black America and I'm glad I found him. He is the voice of right reason calling from the darkness trying to convince people that if we let this turn violent we all lose. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hFiab7fjak
Great inspirational message you have provided voted up acoss the board
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50 Caliber, thanks for the book ; ) but seriously, thanks for reading and your comments are well taken. If the poor and middle classes don't stand together then those who are hell bent on having power will forever rule us. There are tyrants in every society and there are always a few that are smart enough to get themselves elected. The good thing about the USA is we can always un-elect them and put someone else in power. As they once said in the 1960's "power to the people." Let's continue to let our voices be heard that we might influence just one a day and turn this country around.
Right Black. I reread your reason why blacks should vote Republican, as you suggested and must disagree with you for a third time. I disagreed with you 4 and 5 months ago, with what you know today you should also be ready to disagree with yourself. I think you should consider the Republican's plans for the underclass which is getting crowded out by the working and middle class. I know you left some family and friends back and in underclass.
Junko, thanks for rereading but I would really like to know what it is that you disagree with? I quote data that was given by the volunteering public anonymously. I think my analysis is logical and sound. So enlighten me. I'm sure you recall that I went out of business at the end of last year. But I'm an American, I started another, with NO money BTW and things are going well. As Sly Stone once said, "You can make it if you try," and the GOP gives us all a better opportunity.
Right Black, you wrote this article with a forked tongue. I know you know how bad the job market and economy is today,and has been for years. Yet, you are telling blacks to vote Republican and they will get individual freedoms to be unemployed and poorer than they are today. The Republicans are not job creators in America as both parties in the past were, off shore job creation is more important to the Republicans than job creation in America. There are millions of college degreed Americans looking for work and can't find decent jobs in America. What make you think that if Blacks voted Republican, the Republican party will reward them by creating jobs for Blacks? If republicans win the senate and house the only safety net the underclass has, government jobs and assistance will be defunded. Blacks were mislead, I agree. The civil right movement shouldn't have been about social issues, it should have been about economic issues. Blacks were so dehumanized that they reached for the low hanging fruits, they were lead to seek to ride, sit, shit, eat, and sleep with Whites. They were not lead to march for economic justice so they could build on their upward mobility since the ending of slavery, they were duped to redistribute the little wealth they had into America's mainstream, ending Black capitalism. I think your analysis isn't logical or sound for blacks on the hold, but for you personally, you have embraced the Republican Party for whatever reason. I have eyes to see and ears to hear so I will vote Democrat in 2012. I don't know what you have been seeing and hearing these days, but the Republicans are not on the people's side, they are on the side of business. I can't speak for Sly Stone, but I congraulate you on your new business.
junko
junko,
I can speak for "Sly Stone," whose real name is Sylvester Stewart, because he and I went to the same high school in Los Angeles. It is just that he was a couple years ahead of me.
Now, based on some of the things you said in the comment above, the hubs I wrote that were critical of the Civil Rights Movement had a significant impact on the way you think.
Specifically, you have changed your tune because now you are saying that instead of blacks seeking the "right" to integrate with whites, they should have sought to strengthen their society's social-and-economic status -- just like what I said in my hubs that you disputed over-and-over again.
Furthermore, all of your talk about the Republicans being for the rich and big business and against workers, the middle-class and the poor is very tired and worn-out left-wing propaganda.
The truth is the Democrat Party and its left-wing socialistic allies are keeping millions of blacks dumb, desperate, destitute and dependent.
In other words, the Democrats and their allies have engendered a situation among much of black society in which a great many of its members are permanently and hopelessly dependent on government handouts and the goodwill of white liberals.
You think too much of yourself Feenix. The fact that blacks were mislead in the civil right movement was not realized becaused you wrote it on hubpages. I and million of Americans knew that before you wrote your first article on line a million years ago. You are not a smart man Feenix, but you devilish and devisive. You think you are a Republican leader here on hubpages, but you are not, you are the Herman Cain of hubpage Republicans. You both use the same type logic. I know Right Black don't mind you answering his mail, but I'm sure he can answer for himself, but you are so and the know about people like Sly and all things political you had to handle his business. Tell you what Feenix, why haven't you you commented on my praise for President Obama on my latest hub? You claim to want to destroy him and his supporters. Don't attack me on Right Black's turf just to not give the truth I write top billing on the ticar tape. I never disputed over and over again that Blacks should not have seeked the free money and grants recieved by other Americans. You and other Republicans speak with fork tongues to make untruthful points. Anyway, don't answer me here, come over where I write.
junko,
You got it. I will be over to your place real soon. But right now, I'm taking a break so I can quickly stir up a pot of N'Awlin shrimp-and-chicken gumbo.
Yes, My brother,from the home of your ancestors. As I said before you come from good people. Yes, you got country in you, you may be out the country, but country is in you.
junko, thanks for the reasons now we can have a real discussion. First, you look at the economy as a Black man only, not as an American. I see it differently, I am an American who happens to be Black. Business is good for America and the only reason businesses go off shore is for profits. There is no reason to take the risk of business if there is no profit, right. If the unions didn't demand an inflated wage for minimal work then these companies would have an incentive to stay. If the Democrats didn't work so hard to regulate everything in America we wouldn't have companies moving to other countries but companies moving here. BTW Democrats are okay with them going offshore as well. The richest Americans are Democrats and they invest and build there businesses offshore. Take a look at where Warren Buffet and Bill Gates are making all their money. Why in the world are you always looking for a safety net? Why not look for ways to make money instead. This country is a grand experiment of freedom and opportunity which we all have. Stop thinking about what you don't have and think about what you do and you will go a lot further. The Democrats want you to think about safety nets while the Republican want you to think about freedom and opportunity. Go ahead vote for the Democrats, think about the negative and wallow in your safety net. I choose to be positive and live a life of freedom and upward mobility. There is only one thing I can't do and that is fail!
feenix, thanks for having my back. I'm in CA but a pot of N'Awlin shrimp-and-chicken gumbo sure sounds good!
Right Black, don't try to tell me how to think, your thinking is twisted. Is what you keep repeating real discussion. So you are an American who happen to be Black. I see you are Black and hear you want to be looked at as an American, not Black. I suggest you change your persona, American. You and Feenix are victims of selfinflicked blindness, the blind leading the blind and having each other's back. You can't lead me nowhere and your family and friends that turned away from you know you are hopelessly lost. I also will leave you to your accomplishments until you fail again and I don't have a need to know when it happens again and again. Selfish men seldom achieve true victory. I'll turn my back on you and I'll walk away from another great pretender.
junko, thanks for the kind words. Wish you the best also. Just so you know my new business is all about helping people. People are struggling out there and I'm in a position to help them out of their woes, without government help BTW. But I guess that's selfish. Junko no matter whether you turn your back on me or not I'm destined for success because I never give up or give in. Thanks for reading.
maxoxam41 Level 5 Commenter 5 months ago
How many black people live in poverty? How many black people are undergraduate? How many black families are single parent familial cells? How many black people are unemployed? How many black people have committed a felony therefore no right to vote? In which states black people will be treated unfairly judicially speaking? How many black families own their home? A business? How many black girls are pregnant before reaching 21?...
I am sure that the answers to those questions will make you understand why black people vote democrats.